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I ordered a new EX490 the other day and was trying to get some info about the possibility to upgrade the cpu.

 do you think i could use a XEON 3075;

 
Brand Intel
Series Xeon
Model BX805573075
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
Tech Spec
Core Conroe
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Xeon 3075
Operating Frequency 2.66GHz
FSB 1333MHz
L2 Cache 4MB
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Voltage 0.85V – 1.3625V
Thermal Design Power 65W

 everything matches except for the Manufacturing Tech. The CPU's that most people are using 45 nm while mine is 65 nm....

I think CPU socket type and Voltage are the most important things, right?

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January 4, 2010 3:12 PM

I'd say keeping it cool is the important part. Even if you could get it to boot with that proc (that's a big IF), a 65mn XEON would be a lot harder to keep cool.

January 6, 2010 11:59 AM

i decided to just buy an E8400... cost me $170, but i think it will be worth it in the long run. I plan on really loading this thing up.....
cracked open the EX490 and swapped it out in about 15 minutes.
rebooted twice and everything works great.

January 28, 2010 7:24 PM

I upgraded my EX490 to a Wolfdale E5400. It is a dual core 2.7Ghz and is now running fine. Just changed out the CPUs and didn't rebuild. Works great. Temp is now reporting at 60c.

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

January 29, 2010 12:35 PM updated: January 29, 2010 12:36 PM

I too Upgraded my EX490 to a E5400. Took me more time to take the disks out and remove the top case cover than to actually do the upgrade. Having stabailsed my system, temps are only about 4DegC above those of the Celeron Baseline setup. The performance improvement is however outstanding. Witch the Celeron it took nearly 3 weeks to convert 5 DVD's. With the dual Core E5400, it did the other 50 DVD's in 2 days !!. I do not know why HP even bothered with the Celeron Proc.

January 29, 2010 1:20 PM

ParanoidAndroid2008 said: I too Upgraded my EX490 to a E5400. Took me more time to take the disks out and remove the top case cover than to actually do the upgrade. Having stabailsed my system, temps are only about 4DegC above those of the Celeron Baseline setup. The performance improvement is however outstanding. Witch the Celeron it took nearly 3 weeks to convert 5 DVD's. With the dual Core E5400, it did the other 50 DVD's in 2 days !!. I do not know why HP even bothered with the Celeron Proc.

Cost. Per 1,000, the Celeron is signifiantly cheaper. 

Also, the EX485 is similar to the 490 performance-wise. My numbers for converting DVDs with the 485 aren't anywhere near yours. 3 weeks for 5 DVDs? For my review, I converted at least 5 DVDs (among other things) and was done over a few days. Something was up with yours.

The upgrade from Celeron to the 5200 (490 to the 495) should cut conversion times by 50% to 60%. In your case (the e5400) a little more than that. 

February 1, 2010 3:06 PM

I did the upgrade on mine as well - a EX490 Celeron to the 5200. My device manager shows both procs but the task manager still shows a single proc. Do you guys see the same on your boxes? I want to make sure its using both cores..

Thanks for any advice.

February 1, 2010 4:18 PM

I upgraded my EX490 to a Pentium E5400 (Wolfdale LGA775 2.7Ghz 800Mhz FSB). After I rebooted twice, the Windows Home Server Console - System Status tab would show two cores instead of just one. There would be two bars for CPU instead of just one. But, I did have to reboot twice.

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 2, 2010 10:41 AM updated: February 2, 2010 10:44 AM

Same As Me I only re-booted a couple of time over a few days, in the home server console, in setup on the top right, the correct processor appears immediatly. However it did take a couple of re-boots to see both cores on the System Status Tab. I however knew it was fully operational by the blistering increase in performance following the upgrade. I was converting DVD's at the time the before and after performance difference was phenomnal - I could not beleive just what a pile of rubbish the Celeron processor was. The Home server was basically un-usable prior to the upgrade. Keep an eye on the temp's also just to make sure your system does not go into meltdown. Idle i'm hitting about 37Degc up to about 62 loaded [which is pretty comparable with the Celeron]

February 2, 2010 11:30 AM

I upraded my EX490 to an E6300(2.8Ghz) and also upgraded the memory to 4GB.
My idle temp is 35C in a closet that is 77F. Load temp seems to be 60C now. It was 63C initially, but now several weeks later the load temp is lower.

45TB MSS EX490(upgraded CPU-E6300(2.8Ghz dual core Pentium)), 4GB memory, MediaSonic 4 Bay eSATA, 5x MediaSonic 4 Bay USB, LG BD ROM and 2x LiteOn BD Rom (in Vantec USB enclosures)

February 2, 2010 12:19 PM

That's the temps i get too. I went with the E5400 over the E6300 because at the time, I wasn't sure if the FSB could be changed from 800 to 1066 with the stock BIOS. Now I know better. But I am not sure if I am going to upgrade the RAM.

Can you tell a difference with the 4GB of RAM? It seems like such a huge cost for a somewhat marginal upgrade.

For me, the stock Celeron just didn't work - you couldn't logon at most times. Either I shouldn't have bought the EX490 or HP shouldn't have sold it with the Celeron. The E5400 was a necessary improvement. Night and day better.

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 2, 2010 12:46 PM

Strange, This is the exact reason why I went for the E5400, The FBS. Given the lack of availability [without a VGA cable adaptor] of the BIOS to tweak things, I went for the highest spec 800MHz FSB processor. I did not want to take the risk basically. As for the RAM, I have never seen this exceed about 50% with 2GB so I'm not sure really what bumping it upto 4GB would gain interms of Performance improvements. All the RAM upgrades I have done to my main desktops have seen next to no performance improvement. In fact fitting 8GB [from 4GB] actually reduced the Windows Score thing from 5.9 to 5.8 !! - I took the additional 4GB out again - Yet more wasted money, I have bits of unused PC hardware all over the house.

February 2, 2010 1:14 PM

On the RAM, it just doesn't seem cost effective. The cheapest I have found the single stick 4GB 1.8V ram is $125. And you have to wonder how much of the 4GB is actually useable in the 32 bit OS. I don't know if WHS reserves part of that memory for video, etc. like they do on Vista/XP desktops. On my desktop, before I went 64 bit Windows 7, it would only recognize right at 3GB.

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 2, 2010 1:33 PM updated: February 2, 2010 1:44 PM

I went with faster RAM which is the main thing. I don't think the size made any difference since it's only using 20% to 25% now and before it used 50% at most.
I'm not even sure if the faster memory speed made a difference but I figured it couldn't hurt.
But I also figured that when I upgrade the CPU I wanted to upgrade the memory since I didn't want to open the MSS twice.

My 4GB of memory was $115 when I ordered it in December. The CPU was only $80 and I got a good deal on the EX490. So I figured I was still ahead by going this route instead of getting the EX495.

The memory was a 4GB G Skill DDR2 800 memory with 5-5-5-15 timings.
The system does recognize all 4GB.

45TB MSS EX490(upgraded CPU-E6300(2.8Ghz dual core Pentium)), 4GB memory, MediaSonic 4 Bay eSATA, 5x MediaSonic 4 Bay USB, LG BD ROM and 2x LiteOn BD Rom (in Vantec USB enclosures)

February 2, 2010 1:52 PM

You are absolutely right on one thing - once i had the thing taken apart, i thought Dang! why didn't i do all the upgrades at once?

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 2, 2010 3:29 PM

The second reboot seemed to have fixed it - Thanks for the help...


Wmccd.exe is still chewing up a lot of cycles on the memory side - looking into that now.

Have any of you used the WD 2tb green drives? I only have a single slot left so I want to maximize capacity.

Currently I have 3 x 1 TB's - the 1TB Seagate it shipped with and 2 x WD blacks.

February 3, 2010 11:44 AM

I have the 1TB Seagate + 3x1TB WD Green Drives. I do not know about these Green Drives there appear to be confusion surrounding there suitability. I must admit I have not really looked into what the issues are with respect to these drives. I assume they must spin down more frequently. I Will have to investigate !!!

February 3, 2010 11:49 AM

I don't have the 2TB disk, but I have 3 1.5TB Western Digital Caviar Greens in my system. It is only a month old, but I have copied tons of files over and have had zero problems. I am running the SMART hard drive add-in and haven't had a single issue.

A month ago, everyone said get the Green drives for lower power usage as they were more suitable for the system. Now, everyone says steer clear. We shall see - no problems yet!

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 3, 2010 12:28 PM

I am having an issue now. I thought that i could wait on upgrading my cpu, but i see now that it cant wait. I started encoding some movies a few days ago and on the second day, i've had issues using the console and remote connecting. I'll let you know how the upgrade goes.

EX490 w/ E6500 Processor HP Pavillion DV7 64-bit, Win7 Xbox 360 PS3 27" iMac

February 3, 2010 1:46 PM

Upgrading the CPU was the best thing I ever did. I couldn't even log in using the celeron. With the celeron, I would really need to copy the media files about a 1,000 at a time and let everything work.

I still don't have Twonky running right, but at least with the Pentium, I can log on and see the status.

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 3, 2010 2:29 PM

I spoke to a few friends and they are running the greens as well with no issue.
I went to New Egg to and noticed they have the EARS disks with the 64m cache as opposed to the 32m. I was going to get this one but I did a little digging and came across this article about the newer disks - looks like we can run into issue on WHS with them.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3691

"The big problem is that while the first work on 4KB sectors started in 1998, it wasn't until after the launch of Windows XP that the matter came to a head. As a result the 5.x versions of Windows (2K, XP, 2K3, WHS) have no concept of 4KB sectors. Even though all operating systems will be seeing 512B sectors through the use of emulation technology on the drive controller, out of Windows only Win 6.x (Vista, 2008, Win7) and later have been programmed to take in to account the alignment issues we mentioned earlier. Win 5.xx in particular has a nasty habit of starting the first partition at LBA 63, which is 1 512B sector misaligned from a 4K sector boundary. In essence, the issue is that Win 5.x will always create a misaligned first partition and will have poor default performance as a result."

February 3, 2010 2:37 PM

Western Digital says avoide them for now for WHS

http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/01/31/forum-focus-western-digital-advanced-fo...

14.5TB EX490 (upgraded to E5400 2.7Ghz) 2GB RAM (Std) 1 x 1.0TB stock, 3 x 1.5TB WD Cav Green, 2 x 1.5TB WD USB External, 2 x 2.0TB WD USB External, 1 x 2TB WD SATA External

February 13, 2010 9:15 AM updated: February 13, 2010 9:21 AM

I decided to upgrade the CPU as well. But I'm not sure how to open the case. I cannot see any screws?
Is there a paper "How to open the case" around?

thx

February 13, 2010 10:06 AM

Here is a great guide to opening your baby up. It is pretty easy actually. The screws are small, so be careful.

http://www.homeserverhacks.com/2007/12/upgrade-memory-in-your-hp-ex470.html

EX490 w/ E6500 Processor HP Pavillion DV7 64-bit, Win7 Xbox 360 PS3 27" iMac

February 27, 2010 2:52 PM

Everybody upgrading ex490 for better processor just replacing the old chip without any problem.Is there any bios modification before processor install?
No luck with just processor replacement with e5200.
thanks

February 27, 2010 3:04 PM

i had a HORRIBLE experience upgrading my 2nd EX490. I applied to much force when setting my cpu into the motherboard. It was a bit off center and i pressed the lever down to seat it.....
tried to boot after putting it all back together and it would not boot.
took it apart again to notice the entire left side of the CPU socket pins were bent to the left. i am trying to find a replacement mainboard atm... i hope it is not a $480 loss....

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