The machine is a good purchase you just need to keep tring.Remember you have only failed if you give up.Perhaps you should put the server restore disk in and start all over again from the begining.Sometimes thats the only way.
Donovan Hulbert
Categories: Security and User Management
After a week of trying to get the Mediasmart software to even install on my computer, I am having zero luck trying to figure out the password systems. My laptop and my wife's computer simply will not connect to the server without logging on to the server every time. Which means the media collector doesn't work and any other usage is just an overall pita.
We are each the only users on our computer, no password, etc. I have the user accounts set up on the HP, no password etc. I've tried passwords on both and on and on. Nothing maes any difference on either machine.
I ran across the thread down below
http://www.mediasmarthome.com/forum/thread/12212/Auto-Login/
and my problem is Very similar. I tried Dave's fix of another account and that worked perfectly. But new account creation means, no bookmarks, desktop, email, documents. Do you want to tell my wife that? :)
There must be a better way.
This purchase is like every other one I make....a total mistake.
Quad,
In order for your wife and you to be able to automatically log on to your MediaSmart shares, you each need to have accounts with passwords (PC and MediaSmart. In general it is a wise idea to have strong passwords (9+ characters, with numerals, letters and special characters).
In addition, your accounts on the MediaSmart Server should MATCH your accounts on your personal computers exactly. That is, your PC account "Joe" with password "lkjhspi08*" should have a matching account on the server - username and password.
Due to the way Windows Home Server is set up, you must make use of passwords. Setting up accounts on the HP Mediasmart without passwords will allow anyone access to the information, and if you are using wireless, your neighbors will actally be able to login to your MSS accounts. And it will cause the login troubles you are having now.
The link you provided was a good one, but you should not try to rename the Administrator account on your PC. If you are using the Admin account on your PC, it is relatively easy to move the documents and settings over to a new account. Do you use Windows Vista Home Premium on both your PCs? If not, what operating system are you using? With Vista Home Premium (and XP Home), there is no Administrator account activated, so just setting up a password on your PC and Mediasmart accounts should work.
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Yep, I agree with everything you said on the passwords.... but I am having such a struggle with anything connecting automatically the way it should that I am attempting to just get it working without them. And then will go back and add them back in again. Tried all the normal ways and it just doesn't work.
I finally tracked it down..... about 30 hours into this little problem. We are both running XP home...older versions but with all updates. It turns out that for whatever unknown reason, when you rename the original default user account on the desktop or notebook in my case, that Everything you can find indicates the name has been changed. But somewhere internally, the computer still thinks it's username "owner". Therefore, no matter what I did, the Mediasmart still wasn't seeing the right computer. It was comparing it's user account "myname" to "owner" on both our machines.
I found this page http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/2009/07/20/adding-a-new-pc-using-control-us... took a shot at it, and I'll be damned if it worked. The Mediasmart is seeing both our machines automatically.
Now back to adding in passwords. Hoping it doesn't break it again.
And then on to trying to secure my router via the guide here. I already got semi-started on that. And it looks like it will be worse than anything I've done already. It sucks to be stupid.
Well, it wasn't quite that simple. Another 5 hours of uninstalling, reinstalling, rebooting etc to get the server to see my wife's computer even after getting the automatic login to work.
Evidently the server doesn't pick up on the name change. What finally worked was removing her as a user, reboot both hers and the server. (still no connection) and strangely after all that, I needed to add her back as a user and in media collector, reboot both again, remove and reinstall and this time it finds her. (properly I think) None of it makes any logical sense.
Maybe there's the problem, Don't think logically!!!!
Wookiehair has described the solution for your problem... I suggest that you should not attempt to get it working without the passwords. (If you really do want that then just enable the Guest account and give it full access to everything. (But I DO NOT recommend that!)
...JohnBick
John, yep, the setup without passwords was just because I was having so many problems and wanted to simplify everything as much as possible. My wife's and mine are now strong passworded along with the MSS.
Wookie, thank you for the update but I still had something odd with both machines. They are both older XP's but updated with all Microsoft updates including SP3. I am not using the admin account on either machine, just the default standard setup with admin privileges. No guest account is set up on mine, my wife's or the MSS.
The bit that I don't understand and that I needed the workaround from the link I included in my post, is the internal naming of our user account. I will try to describe what I did. (my wife's is an identical setup).
With all my problems, I restored my laptop back to factory settings. Initial XP setup gave me a user name of either owner or myyname. I don't remember which. If it was owner, I changed it to myname shortly thereafter. I passworded it and then installed the MSS. I created an account on MSS of myname with the same password.
This is where the struggle began. The MSS didn't think the users were the same! What followed was innumerable attempts at various configurations with no luck. Then somewhere along the way, after yet another reboot, the MSS tool tray popped up an error saying the password didn't match for OWNER! I checked my user name again and it was myname on my computer and on the MSS. (no "owner" username in sight)
This led to a new search and my finding that link where I could do what I assume is a lower level rename of my username with "control userpasswords2". This finally did the trick. I used the same technique on my wife's and it worked there as well. If anyone can tell me what is actually going on, I would love to know.
One final addendum for weirdness. The MSS is connecting to both computers fine, it's backing up, collecting etc. What is still strange is that the folder naming seems out of whack. For example, the media collector has pulled videos from my wife's computer and automatically put them into a folder named owner.hername.000
It's almost as though there are still left over remnants of that original "owner" username that I thought was gone. It all seems to be working, but that folder naming thing makes me concerned about future issues.
Thank you Very much for all the help!
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