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I heard that it is possible to upgrade the 2GB to a 4GB of memory, has anyone performed this upgrade and was wondering if it would void the warranty.
Lastly: Is there a big change in overall performance after the memory upgrade because the 4GB DDR2 DRAM is quite expensive at the moment. Please comment, Thanks.

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June 17, 2009 6:10 PM

I doubt you'd notice it at all. 2GB is plenty. It would void your warranty. What kind of tasks are you doing that would require that much memory?

June 17, 2009 8:04 PM

Hey, to be quite honest I had no intention of actually doing it I was just a bit curious but as I suspected I also doubt that it would make a difference in terms of performance but one thing for sure somebody, somewhere will eventually do it.
Thanks for your reply!

Macster

June 19, 2009 8:48 AM

Somebody with a definately answer may come along. I'm just not sure.

June 19, 2009 10:44 AM

I haven't seen any reports yet of anyone actually upgrading it to 4GB, which would be the maximum WHS could support. I also agree with MitchSchaft; it's unlikely you'd discern any real performance difference.

August 19, 2009 6:31 PM updated: August 19, 2009 6:32 PM

Well... it was a question of time before someone decided to sell a EX485 unit with 4GB DDR2 upgrade pre-installed on ebay.

Link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-HP-MediaSmart-EX485-Windows-Home-Server-750GB-4GB_W0Q...

Macster

August 19, 2009 9:03 PM updated: August 19, 2009 9:04 PM

macster said: Well... it was a question of time before someone decided to sell a EX485 unit with 4GB DDR2 upgrade pre-installed on ebay. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-HP-MediaSmart-EX485-Windows-Home-Server-750GB-4GB_W0Q...

I'm not sure what a person is going to get when they buy that system as it also claims to be *new* and *Sealed in Box" as well.  I know that HP isn't selling them with 4GB of RAM, so which statement is wrong?  Is it the amount of memory or that it is new/sealed?

ROFL

HP EX485, 2GB RAM, Intel Celeron E3300 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor, 4 x 2TB WD Caviar Green

August 19, 2009 9:46 PM updated: August 19, 2009 9:47 PM

I agree with you but some poor soul will eventually buy it nevertheless, I'm still inquisitive about the memory upgrade. The real question is whether or not the 1 year limited warranty from HP is still valid at this point.

Macster

August 19, 2009 9:54 PM

I know that HP isn't selling them with 4GB of RAM, so which statement is wrong?  Is it the amount of memory or that it is new/sealed? ROFL

My guess would be both. Wink

August 19, 2009 10:08 PM updated: August 19, 2009 10:10 PM

Sellers on ebay routinely make such confusion statements, in my opinion the server is not [NEW] unless the buyer is responsible for the actual ram upgrade...

Macster

August 19, 2009 10:41 PM

HP approved memory upgrades in the EX470x series and said it wouldnt void the warrenty. I don't see what the EX48x series would be any differant.

August 20, 2009 6:52 AM

Buyers should always to aware of conflicting information like this on ebay.

It is unethical to say the unit is *new* and *Sealed in Box*, but have opened the box to install 4GB. And why would any seller take a *new* *Sealed in Box" unit and open the box just to install very expensive 4GB RAM module. They would have been better off installing a new E5200 CPU than bigger RAM. I wouldn't say that opening the unit up to install the memory is a small task. Think about what all you have to tear down to do it. I would have some serious issues if they have done this on how they tested this unused machine. It is enough of a question that I wouldn't bid on this item. But that is just me.

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August 20, 2009 8:12 AM

Well said, couldn't agree with you more!

Macster

August 21, 2009 11:32 AM

Interesting that there are FOUR units available....!

...JohnBick

August 26, 2009 4:00 PM

I've confirmed with HP that they have never shipped a MediaSmart Server, in any country, with a stock 4GB module.

August 27, 2009 10:04 AM updated: August 27, 2009 10:05 AM

It says right on the page:

Box was opened for memory upgrade only !

"everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, it's not the end" - unknown

August 27, 2009 11:31 AM updated: August 27, 2009 11:35 AM

pardizzone said: It says right on the page: Box was opened for memory upgrade only !

I don't know if you're getting my point.  It is NOT *NEW* nor is it *SEALED IN BOX*, if it has been opened for any reason!!!!  Buy a car and go get the windows tinted, install neon lights on it and try returning it to the dealership.  They sure won't call that car new.  Sorry, things just don't work that way.  :-)

Now; let's say your OK with them calling it *new* and *sealed*.  Then are we to believe that they pulled the system all apart which isn't easy by any means to put memory in it and put it back in the box.  I wouldn't be comfortable about them going through such disassembly without some form of testing afterwards.  Hence, again this does not qualify calling the unit *new* and *Sealed in box* anywhere?

Another point is why upgrade the memory???  First, most people would argue whether you would even notice a difference in performance by adding more memory.  Second, have you price a 4GB memory module.  It isn't cheap!  They typically go for around $150.

So if they can afford to put that kind of money into the system, why not do what others are clearly doing to increase performance and add value by upgrading the CPU.  It is cheaper than the memory and shows immediate performance gains for a fraction of the cost.

 I would be cautious of this sale for the reasons above.  I'm cannot or would not stop anyone from buying it.  I do believe that is false advertising to call it *NEW* and *SEALED IN BOX*.  Only when you look into the full description do you see them mentioned that the OPENED the box which negates the other two statements.  It is an unethical selling practice. Should we also discuss what a buyers chances are of getting HP warrantee service on one of these *NEW* systems?  I think HP would consider any system opened and modified in anyway terms to void the warrantee.

A person would be spending a lots of money for an upgrade that most likely won’t notice and without any form of warrantee.  Where is the deal in this?

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August 27, 2009 1:04 PM

I was replying to Matt's post and should have quoted him........ sorry. I agree totally, it's not new if they opened the box and resealed it.

"everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, it's not the end" - unknown

August 27, 2009 3:03 PM

If the stock memory was 512MB, then you will notice a huge difference with the upgrade.

August 27, 2009 3:48 PM updated: August 27, 2009 3:53 PM

MitchSchaft said: If the stock memory was 512MB, then you will notice a huge difference with the upgrade.
That would be true if we were talking about the HP EX47x.  However, we are specifically talking about the HP EX48x that do come with 2GB of RAM standard.  And more specifically we are taling about an ebayer that had some HP EX480s for sale showing them as upgraded to 4GB of RAM, marked it *NEW* and *SEALED IN BOX*, only opened to upgrade memory, etc.  I personally wouldn't want to buy them under these particular circumstances, but may be fine for others.  I'm feel bad about anyone buying one of them, un-informed.

HP EX485, 2GB RAM, Intel Celeron E3300 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor, 4 x 2TB WD Caviar Green

December 13, 2009 11:20 AM

Klips,

I see you have an EX485, with an Intel Celeron E3300 2.5 GHZ Dual-Core Processor. Did you upgrade it from the Intel Celeron 440 2 GHZ socket 775? If so, would you recommend it or something faster with more L2 Cache? I'm not sure what all would fit it and keep the temperature from getting too hot, perhaps you do?
Thank you Klips.

December 14, 2009 12:50 AM

MM said: Klips, I see you have an EX485, with an Intel Celeron E3300 2.5 GHZ Dual-Core Processor. Did you upgrade it from the Intel Celeron 440 2 GHZ socket 775? If so, would you recommend it or something faster with more L2 Cache? I'm not sure what all would fit it and keep the temperature from getting too hot, perhaps you do? Thank you Klips.

I have tried two different processors in my EX485.  I have tried the E6300 Pentium dual-core processor and it ran hotter than the Celeron 440.  I then also tried the E3300 Celeron dual-core processor.  The E3300 Celeron ran equal to, if not just a little cooler than, the Celeron 440 temperatures.

I like the idea of having a dual-core processor in the machine and it does have more L2 cache than the Celeron 440.  Some folks have ventured into putting quad-core processors in the system such as an L3100.  While I would like to, I don't see how I can justify that much money on a new processor.  But I suppose it is all in what more you are going to try getting this system to do beyond the standard functions the machine currently has.

So some have adopted the E5200 as kind of a standard upgrade path.  Nothing wrong with this processor at all.  Currently, it looks like the E5200 is running about the same price as the E3300.  I believe that I can say with some confidence that it will run a little warmer than the Celeron 440 or the E3300.

Not matter which you decide, there are some specific things that you should be prepared to do to get the system running with another processor.  You need to go to this link and read through all of the options.  http://www.mediasmarthome.com/forum/thread/11977/HP-EX-485-CPU-upgrade-sucessful/?page=1

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