This is certainly bizzare. I have certainly never saw that behavior (I have seen the screen saver coming up - but never the unit turn off by itself).
I would try two things
a) Do a hard reset using the back button
b) If that does not help, then do a complete reset to factory settings using the Settings menu.
There is also the possibility that some other IR code is the same as the power off IR code, or if the batteries on the remote are low, the IR codes are erratic. So, put some fresh batteries and check if it goes off when you use some other remote at the same time.
Categories: Digital Media Receivers
Hi,
My HP MSC tends to turn itself off when playing a video with a friendly "going to sleep" message, and then remains "asleep" for a couple of minutes before I can turn it back on. It's kind of annoying, and unpredictable, and I am wondering whether anyone else has experienced this behaviour, and if there's any solution to the problem.
Thanks,
Raoulsch
Thanks for the tip! I did the hard reset, it seems to work for now. Cheers, Raoul
I have seen this too. When it happened to me I was using the Vista Extender interface, no the HP interface. It did NOT happen ever during Live tv viewing but did happen when I was running a video off the hard drive. Very strange.
I turned off the screen saver in the MediaSmart Connect and it seems to have fixed the problem. Also, I don't set the remote down and leave it pointed at the device...but that is probably just me being paranoid :)
I THINK that the video I was playing was off a USB drive on my Vista Media Center computer and not one of the internal disks in the Vista Media Center computer. The video played just fine but maybe there was some kind of latency that cause the MediaSmart Connect to think it was time to sleep? Dunno.
Thanks! At least that confirms that I am not mad, or at least there's two of us :-). I did the hard reset and reset to factory settings recommended previously and that seems to help. This has been less of an issue recently, so I keep my fingers crossed. Cheers, Raoul
I have been using me MSC with a Vista Home Premium (Media Center) computer for a couple of weeks, using it longer. I actually have 2 MSC units. one is connected wired and the other wireless. I am using it for longer periods recently, and the past two nights it has "gone to sleep" (message and all). There was no stray IR signals as I was the only person awake, and nothing else going on. I was surfing the web on the PC as I normally do, and the MSC went to sleep. I did a hard reset tonite, and will see if the problem continues to exhibit itself.
Glad to see others are posting about this. I emailed support after I got the unit and this happened to me. There response was not help at all. They thought I was talking about and HP TV going to sleep.
I too have this issue...I have two units, only one exhibits this behavior, which is interesting. Has the "factory reset" option within the interface worked for anyone to the point that the issue did not recur?
I have hit the button on the back and that does not work as the issue definitely continues going this route.
I have the opposite problem and that is that my MSC keeps turning itself on. I think that is a better problem than it turning itself off but I have not had any response from HP and I reported it back in Aug 08.
nmpcrazy
(Q9550 Quad/Vista Home Premium/PVR150/VMC), (P42.53/XP Pro/PVR250/ FusionHDTV5 USB/FusionHDTV7 USB/BTV)
Dell(P42.0,Linspire,2.5TB,used as server)
Linplayer2(2), Ziova CS615, MediaSmart Connect x280n
Mine does that too. I have read on some other threads that the difference in power consumption between on and standy-by mode is actually insignificant, so I have decided not to worry about it.
The "going-to-sleep" issue has not re-occured after the hard reset / reset to factory settings I did a couple of months ago.
Raoulsch...glad to hear your factory reset cured the problem! I think that the unit going to sleep while watching tv and not coming back to life for 2-3 minutes is a definitely a larger issue than it waking itself up...
Raoulsch said: Mine does that too. I have read on some other threads that the difference in power consumption between on and standy-by mode is actually insignificant, so I have decided not to worry about it. The "going-to-sleep" issue has not re-occured after the hard reset / reset to factory settings I did a couple of months ago.
How did you do the hard reset?
I thought TV guy was recommending pressing the reset button on the back of the system but reading the manual that just restarts the unit. The hard reset is done using the remote while in the settings menu, correct?
I am asking because my system has just started going to sleep while viewing video. It just started happening after using the system since the end of July.
nmpcrazy
(Q9550 Quad/Vista Home Premium/PVR150/VMC), (P42.53/XP Pro/PVR250/ FusionHDTV5 USB/FusionHDTV7 USB/BTV)
Dell(P42.0,Linspire,2.5TB,used as server)
Linplayer2(2), Ziova CS615, MediaSmart Connect x280n
nmpcrazy said:Raoulsch said: Mine does that too. I have read on some other threads that the difference in power consumption between on and standy-by mode is actually insignificant, so I have decided not to worry about it. The "going-to-sleep" issue has not re-occured after the hard reset / reset to factory settings I did a couple of months ago.How did you do the hard reset? I thought TV guy was recommending pressing the reset button on the back of the system but reading the manual that just restarts the unit. The hard reset is done using the remote while in the settings menu, correct? I am asking because my system has just started going to sleep while viewing video. It just started happening after using the system since the end of July.
First try the reset in the back. It does far more than restarting the unit.
If the problem persists, then do a full reset to factory defaults (from the settings menu)
TV guy said:nmpcrazy said:First try the reset in the back. It does far more than restarting the unit. If the problem persists, then do a full reset to factory defaults (from the settings menu)Raoulsch said: Mine does that too. I have read on some other threads that the difference in power consumption between on and standy-by mode is actually insignificant, so I have decided not to worry about it. The "going-to-sleep" issue has not re-occured after the hard reset / reset to factory settings I did a couple of months ago.How did you do the hard reset? I thought TV guy was recommending pressing the reset button on the back of the system but reading the manual that just restarts the unit. The hard reset is done using the remote while in the settings menu, correct? I am asking because my system has just started going to sleep while viewing video. It just started happening after using the system since the end of July.
Glad to see that you are still around.
I did reset the button on the back but was not sure of the sequence. I put the unit into sleep mode and then pressed the back reset button. The unit did its thing and before the day was over it started turning itself off and I had one occurance of it going to sleep in the middle of a video. Should I unplug the unit and leave it unplugged for some period of time and then reset?
I also did the hard reset back to default settings and for now that seems to have done something. It has been 20 hours or so since I did that and so far the unit has not turned itself on.
Has the hard reset option continued to work for you? Is it something that may need to be done every so often? If I can get over this hurdle I think WAF will be high enough to move the unit to the main viewing area! If not then it will labor in relative obscurity in an upstairs bedroom.
nmpcrazy
(Q9550 Quad/Vista Home Premium/PVR150/VMC), (P42.53/XP Pro/PVR250/ FusionHDTV5 USB/FusionHDTV7 USB/BTV)
Dell(P42.0,Linspire,2.5TB,used as server)
Linplayer2(2), Ziova CS615, MediaSmart Connect x280n
I never had that problem, but I do hope that the reset to factory defaults will solve your problem for quite some time.
My MSC is also jumping out of standby. I'm running wireless N with static IP assignment based on MAC.
Question: What's the difference (if any) between a cold restart and a restart with the "reset" switch? So far a cold power down doe not resolve the issue. For those with the "jumping out of standby'... how many are using a wired connection?
I was just sitting here listening to music via Windows Extender mode on the HP MSC. All of a sudden it went to sleep. I didn't do anything and around 5 or so minutes later it turned back on.
I never did do the 'factory reset'. Previously I've just used the button on the back. Just went through the Factory Reset options and we'll see if that helps.
skingery said: I was just sitting here listening to music via Windows Extender mode on the HP MSC. All of a sudden it went to sleep. I didn't do anything and around 5 or so minutes later it turned back on. I never did do the 'factory reset'. Previously I've just used the button on the back. Just went through the Factory Reset options and we'll see if that helps.I am sorry to say that resetting the unit did not permanently fix the 'going to sleep' problem for me. I did both resets. It is a frustrating problem and I now believe that the MediaSmart Connect is no more, which means support for this issue, of which there was very little to begin with, will be non existant.
I too am losing confidence in this product. First there is no HP email support (I opened two tickets with the esupport portal and in a follow-up with a live person was informed there is no email support for the Connect product).
My box it still jumping out of standby.
Even more annoying is the fact that it can't find mpeg video from an DNLA/uPNP compliant server. However, if I use the Intel uPNP "Control Point" tool/utility I can stream the video to the MSC renderer.
Another annoyance is the speed of media discovery. Yesterday I changed from Wireless N to 100Mb/Full (via a Gigabit switch) - no difference in performance. It still clocks for in upwards of 2 minutes to present content.
Audio wise this is decent and since the DLNA backend in running PCAST I can play iTunes but for video this has been disappointing. If the video can play on the XP MP11 wouldn't you thing this should play on the MSC - the only difference is the middleware software
Part of the frustration has also the lack of a "White Paper" on the architecture of the MSC. I cannot find any reference to the different "server modes" and how this affects the aggregation of content. Since I have all by XP boxes rip and monitor content to the same backend (NAS) share point, when I use the "All Music" function the same song is listed 4 times! (seems the middleware in involved again!)
A better understanding of the inherent relationship between the middleware software (MP11) and how this is used for content aggregation/ presentation would be useful in integrating the product into a NAS based environment. I am currently in the process of documenting my finding in an effort to "reverse engineer" the architecture and interrelationships.
Reading the last statement that the "MediaSmart is no more" I would like to ask the HP moderators - what is the story regarding the support for this product, what is the status on a fireware upgrade (for the wakeup / go to sleep problem) and in general where is the extended documentation on "best practices" for this product.
My unit jumps out of standby and goes to sleep while playing video. Resetting has not helped either problem. I did have a brief email from HP support suggesting the reset but they basically said that it was either my network or my PC or some other device that was causing the MSC to go to sleep. When I requested an RMA they (hp email support said I could only get that via the phone). I respectfully requested that they (email support give me the RMA because I had no success with getting any help via phone support (I contacted HP 4 times and in all cases after reaching a human and or several humans, I was cut off) but they have not replied back.
I basically like the unit especially when using it in extender mode but the going to sleep thing is a show stopper as well as the total lack of support. With just a little effort HP could have had a winner but instead they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
nmpcrazy
(Q9550 Quad/Vista Home Premium/PVR150/VMC), (P42.53/XP Pro/PVR250/ FusionHDTV5 USB/FusionHDTV7 USB/BTV)
Dell(P42.0,Linspire,2.5TB,used as server)
Linplayer2(2), Ziova CS615, MediaSmart Connect x280n
Thought I'd jump back into this old thread....
My MSC started restarting randomly when watching things via extender mode. Really frustrating and rendering it basically unusable. At one point it turned off altogether and would not restart despite all efforts. At that point I unplugged it and decided to call tech support in the morning. Of course, as these things go, it turned on while I was on the phone with tech support.
We left the case open and I called back a day or so later because it got worse again. I was able to get a refurbished unit and an RMA to send the old MSC back.
My new MSC arrived today. All that was in the box was the MSC so I plugged everything back in and we'll see what happens.
My theory? The power supply is bad. I think that is what we are all experiencing. The bad part? As I said, all that was in the box was a refurb MSC...NO NEW POWER SUPPLY.
I wonder if the power supply can't handle power fluctuations. I do not think I am having them as everything else on that circuit (tv, etc) appear to be fine. If I had a UPS I'd try it out.
skingery said: Thought I'd jump back into this old thread.... My MSC started restarting randomly when watching things via extender mode. Really frustrating and rendering it basically unusable. At one point it turned off altogether and would not restart despite all efforts. At that point I unplugged it and decided to call tech support in the morning. Of course, as these things go, it turned on while I was on the phone with tech support. We left the case open and I called back a day or so later because it got worse again. I was able to get a refurbished unit and an RMA to send the old MSC back. My new MSC arrived today. All that was in the box was the MSC so I plugged everything back in and we'll see what happens. My theory? The power supply is bad. I think that is what we are all experiencing. The bad part? As I said, all that was in the box was a refurb MSC...NO NEW POWER SUPPLY. I wonder if the power supply can't handle power fluctuations. I do not think I am having them as everything else on that circuit (tv, etc) appear to be fine. If I had a UPS I'd try it out.
At this point in time I think it is mute whether the root cause is known or not. The x280n is no longer made and is barely supported. There is zero chance that the power supply, if that is the cause, will be fixed and become available.
FWIW my unit turns itselt on primarily when I mess about with Media Center on my PC. Also, if I do a reset the unit will not turn itself on or off for a week or so. That basically tells me that it is probably not due to power fluctuations or a bad power supply. I suspect the issue has more to do with the way that the firmware was written to conserve power and the way in which it is supposed to watch network activity. The blue light on the front of my unit pulses in brightness even when the unit is in standby.
I still have my x280n hooked up but it gets less and less use. Soon it will be a door stop which is a shame because when it does work it is pretty slick especially in extender mode. But shutting down in the middle of a video really ruins the experience and is the polar opposite of WAF.
Sadly, HPInvent is right. Seems like media center extenders are going away or being replaced.
Even the new unit I got from HP had the issue where it turned itself off. I wasn't willing to have an expensive paper weight so I decided to see what I could do....
So the power supply that is shipped with this unit is supposed to put out 19V. Not sure why I didn't think of it earlier but I decided to test it with my volt meter. It reads like 11 to 14 volts and the needle pulsates between the two. Whacky. I'm thinking that has to be the problem and that is probably the low end of the tolerance for the device. Any dip would cause the device to look like you toggled power.
Anyway, I hacked together the tip from the stock MSC power supply and an old laptop power supply and so far, so good.
.... that was weeks ago. I haven't had a single drop out since installing my modified power supply so I'll continue using my MSC.
skingery said: Sadly, HPInvent is right. Seems like media center extenders are going away or being replaced. Even the new unit I got from HP had the issue where it turned itself off. I wasn't willing to have an expensive paper weight so I decided to see what I could do.... So the power supply that is shipped with this unit is supposed to put out 19V. Not sure why I didn't think of it earlier but I decided to test it with my volt meter. It reads like 11 to 14 volts and the needle pulsates between the two. Whacky. I'm thinking that has to be the problem and that is probably the low end of the tolerance for the device. Any dip would cause the device to look like you toggled power. Anyway, I hacked together the tip from the stock MSC power supply and an old laptop power supply and so far, so good. .... that was weeks ago. I haven't had a single drop out since installing my modified power supply so I'll continue using my MSC.
I am skeptical of your fix but I am giving it a go. I found a laptop power supply that simply plugs into the x280n. I tested both power supplies and they both output 19V DC. I tested them off and on for an hour or so and both behaved similarly. Most of the time the output was 19V but on occassion it was as low as 15.2V for both of them.
I have gone many times for several weeks before having the unit power itself off so it will take a few months of no powering off to convince me it is the power supply.
Thanks for the suggestion and I will post back.
BTW is the problem still gone?
HPInvent said:skingery said: Sadly, HPInvent is right. Seems like media center extenders are going away or being replaced. Even the new unit I got from HP had the issue where it turned itself off. I wasn't willing to have an expensive paper weight so I decided to see what I could do.... So the power supply that is shipped with this unit is supposed to put out 19V. Not sure why I didn't think of it earlier but I decided to test it with my volt meter. It reads like 11 to 14 volts and the needle pulsates between the two. Whacky. I'm thinking that has to be the problem and that is probably the low end of the tolerance for the device. Any dip would cause the device to look like you toggled power. Anyway, I hacked together the tip from the stock MSC power supply and an old laptop power supply and so far, so good. .... that was weeks ago. I haven't had a single drop out since installing my modified power supply so I'll continue using my MSC.I am skeptical of your fix but I am giving it a go. I found a laptop power supply that simply plugs into the x280n. I tested both power supplies and they both output 19V DC. I tested them off and on for an hour or so and both behaved similarly. Most of the time the output was 19V but on occassion it was as low as 15.2V for both of them. I have gone many times for several weeks before having the unit power itself off so it will take a few months of no powering off to convince me it is the power supply. Thanks for the suggestion and I will post back. BTW is the problem still gone?
Still gone so far. As you said, it can take a while to show up. I'll keep monitoring. The MSC is the sole way I get TV and the rest of my content using media center so we'll see.
So far so good. I have played several back to back full length videos without issue. I also noticed that the unit did not turn itself on during the night. When I get a chance I will take a look at the lap top power supply that I am using and report the make and model. No plug swapping required, just plug it in and go.


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