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lrmat

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when i try to log into the console all i get is the window but it's blue.i can't see any of the settings. the network is fine i can see the folders and access the webshares.

i tried doing a restore and it endedup erasing allofmy data. what can i do to getthe console working again?

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September 5, 2008 1:25 AM

Do you have PP1 and HP's update installed? Usually rebooting will take care of that issue, especially after installing an add-in.

September 5, 2008 8:07 PM

Hi, I just had the same problem when I returned home after a week away: however it was after I updated the McAfee software (part of PP1), which the McAfee module section of the console stated I needed or was required. After rebooting the server and restarting my router, I was able to access the console. Now McAfee is stating "one or more components are not operational": and I show a Network Critical warning. I was leery of installing McAfee and now I wish I hadn't. Has anybody else had this issue???

September 6, 2008 12:14 AM

McAfee is fine to install. Did you try rebooting again? And how could rebooting that reboot your router, too? Something sounds fishy.

September 6, 2008 12:17 PM

I have also begun experiencing the blue console connection of death since installing the latest updates including pp1 and mcaffe. I think the connection is not closing completely on the server side after a successful connect and is remaining partially hung in a semi-disconnect state so on the next reconnect attempt it is connecting to the previous

September 6, 2008 1:07 PM

I guess I should clarify, I updated to PP1 so I could use the HP server on my home computer (64bit) and added the McAfee add-in. It seemed to work OK for about a month. I didn't start having issues until I received, thru the console, a message that McAfee needed to be updated. At the same time I was receiving a network critical warning and after updating McAfee, I had troubles with the console. After rebooting (Thanks Mitch), I was able to log into the console, but I have the McAfee error mentioned on my last post. I've disabled the warning yesterday, and just now..... after going to the console so I could write down here the error message, it seems McAfee fixed itself. Oh well, all this typing and the thing fixes itself, I don't know whether to be embarrased, or pleased. Maybe I'll be both ;)

September 6, 2008 1:30 PM

Found another thread talking about this under memory upgrades (?) but found an interesting thought, ppl saying uninstall pvconnect and mcafee addins, I just used RDP to run the connect console from the server desktop and used configure add ins to remove pvconnect - after 2 reboots things seem to be working well again. Maybe pvconnect has issues?

September 6, 2008 4:55 PM

let me ask a silly question..... how do you reboot the server? i am copying over all my files again and it will take days. but if i come across the blue screen again i'll try the reboot.

by the way the console just started working again out of the blue. don't know the rhyme or reason.

September 6, 2008 7:52 PM

obviously, the best and most proper method to initiate a shutdown or reboot is from the connector console - when you click on settings a shutdown button appears at the bottom left of the console. Of course, if the console is opening to the usless blue screen that is not an option so in this case I would suggest using RDP to connect. RDP is built into Win XP and Vista and available as a download from M$ for Windows 2K. Find it under start - all programs - accessories - communications. Once you dismiss the "Warning, you could really mess this up" web page that pops up on the server you can access the console directly on the server desktop or just click on start, shutdown, and restart. Barring either of these two of course as a last resort hold the power button down until it shuts down - but only as a last resort.

September 13, 2008 2:44 PM

I've been following your advice because I have exactly the same problem. I called HP but they were not much help.
I don't understand your last message. RDP is the remote access? When I use web access to the server all I can see are the shared files. Are you suggesting that I can access the settings of the server by this route? If so, I cannot see any link to this. Help. And thanks.

September 13, 2008 3:16 PM updated: September 13, 2008 3:23 PM

OK. Got the remote desktop connection working. Now to try your advice.

September 13, 2008 3:46 PM

Bleach said: OK. Got the remote desktop connection working. Now to try your advice.
So now I'm up and running again. The restart you suggested did not work. So then I uninstalled McAfee, and now my system is back to it's normal working state. I have read that McAfee can take up to 24 hours or more to perform it's first scan (see http://www.mediasmarthome.com/blog/entry/10491/Is-your-system-slow-after-PP1-... but I installed this program over a week ago, so it should have had enough time, surely? To what extent amd I leaving my server exposed to potential threats by not using McAfee?

September 13, 2008 8:57 PM

Bleach said:
Bleach said: OK. Got the remote desktop connection working. Now to try your advice.
So now I'm up and running again. The restart you suggested did not work. So then I uninstalled McAfee, and now my system is back to it's normal working state. I have read that McAfee can take up to 24 hours or more to perform it's first scan (see http://www.mediasmarthome.com/blog/entry/10491/Is-your-system-slow-after-PP1-... but I installed this program over a week ago, so it should have had enough time, surely? To what extent amd I leaving my server exposed to potential threats by not using McAfee?

I do not personally use McAfee, but...

When you went into the server via RDP (with mcAfee running) did you look at the Task Manager "Processes" tab to see what task was using the most CPU time? Which one and what %? If it was a component of McAfee then it had likely not completed it's scan. (Could still be the initial one or it could bethat some setting is scheduling it too often and it never completes.)

As for "risk"... Many folks do not use anything on their MSS on the theory that they nover do anything "directly" on the server. While there is some validity to this argument, it carries additional risk and does require you to be careful in what you use the server for (and how). 

Personally, I use F-Secure these days. 

...JohnBick

EX475 + 3 1TB WD (2.5TB "pool", 1.5TB backup), 2 GB mmry, LE-1640, APC UPS
PC1: Vista/32 Ultimate SP1, 2x150 GB Raptor RAID-1 Sys (C) & 4x320GB RAID-5 Data (D)
PC2: Laptop, Win XP Home SP3
Linksys WRT54G v1.1, 2xNetGear GS105

September 22, 2008 9:13 PM

I've got the same problem and it seems like it occurred after I installed the add ins that included McAfee. I had problems ages ago with McAfee on another computer and vowed never to use it again, but installed it on the server out of fear and ignorance. I'm posted this "me too" with the hope of seeing if others are having the same problem. This really sucks - the server WAS working flawlessly now I don't know what to do.

September 23, 2008 12:06 AM

Wow, sorry folks for my apparent dissapearance. I tried to find this thread again after a day or two from my last post and I don't know what I was doing wrong but I could not find it! Finally today I got an email alert telling me the thread had updated and viola, I am back. I wanted to post that since un-installing the PVConnect add-in I have had Z-E-R-O problems accessing my server via the console. NONE. NADA. ZIP, works just like day 1, and I have the McAfee, much as I really don't like McAfee at all, still have it installed as in my book any anti-virus is better than no anti-virus. Seems odd to me that M$ didn't offer a 1-care solution.

September 23, 2008 12:16 AM

I did a manual (power button) reboot - that was the only way I could figure out how to reboot. The first time, after several minutes of hard drive whirring and lights flashing, the server just turned itself off. I thought I was in big trouble. I had to reboot using the power button 2 more times before I was finally able to actually get to my console rather than a blue screen. I immediately uninstalled McAfee and the server is acting completely normal now. PVConnect is still installed. Hmmmmm. I wonder what this means? Oh, BTW, I did follow instructions found elsewhere about not installing both PVConnect and McAfee at the same time.

September 23, 2008 1:02 PM

Some folks don't know that hitting the power button in the back can take a few minutes to shut itself down. They end up holding down the power button for 4 seconds and doing a hard power-down, which isn't good. If you hit the button in the back, leave it alone for a few minutes. It can take several.

September 23, 2008 1:10 PM

Thanks! I did not know that. Wish I had.

September 26, 2008 12:04 AM

On a semi-related note, has anyone heard any more about HP's plans to offer a memory upgrade solution that will not void the warranty or offer amnesty to those who already have? I couldn't stand it any more and just popped in the Patriot 2GB module that others have recommended. W-O-W what a difference, HP needs to make this available NOW. Not only am I no longer having any issues connecting via the console (keep in mind the ONLY add in I removed was the PVConnect, McAfee is still installed which leaves me even more convinced the problem was with PVConnect)but its popping up in like 4 or 5 seconds now as opposed to the nearly full minute it was taking before!

September 26, 2008 12:18 AM

Bleach said: I've been following your advice because I have exactly the same problem. I called HP but they were not much help. I don't understand your last message. RDP is the remote access? When I use web access to the server all I can see are the shared files. Are you suggesting that I can access the settings of the server by this route? If so, I cannot see any link to this. Help. And thanks.
RDP is a remote access protocol that is built into several versions of windows, or available from Microsoft as an add in for some versions of windows.  I would suggest checking with Microsoft to see if RDP (Remote Desktop) is supported in your version.  In Windows XP Professional it is, as I indicated earlier, found under start, all programs, accessories, communications, Remote Desktop Connection.  If you can run that program from the same computer you are attempting to access the WHS via the connector console, you will enter the name of your server in the connect to window that opens.  Once you are remotely connected to the server it will be just as if you were logged directly onto the server.  This is not the same as using web connect via HTTP.  I apologize but did not even think before that RDP might not have been an option for your version of Windows, but here is a link to more information about RDP.  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/default.mspx

September 26, 2008 7:56 AM

You can run Remote Desktop FROM any version of Windows. Some, like WinXP Home, will not allow you to remote INTO the system.

...JohnBick

EX475 + 3 1TB WD (2.5TB "pool", 1.5TB backup), 2 GB mmry, LE-1640, APC UPS
PC1: Vista/32 Ultimate SP1, 2x150 GB Raptor RAID-1 Sys (C) & 4x320GB RAID-5 Data (D)
PC2: Laptop, Win XP Home SP3
Linksys WRT54G v1.1, 2xNetGear GS105

September 26, 2008 8:02 AM

On the HP Memory Upgrade discussion...

HP Announced yesterday that 2GB memory upgrades would no longer void our warranties. They specifically stated there is no plan for HP to perform these upgrades or to train service personnel to do it. Here is a link to a place to discuss this:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2428

(I had started a similar thread on this board but can no longer find it.)

...JohnBick

EX475 + 3 1TB WD (2.5TB "pool", 1.5TB backup), 2 GB mmry, LE-1640, APC UPS
PC1: Vista/32 Ultimate SP1, 2x150 GB Raptor RAID-1 Sys (C) & 4x320GB RAID-5 Data (D)
PC2: Laptop, Win XP Home SP3
Linksys WRT54G v1.1, 2xNetGear GS105

November 6, 2008 6:10 PM

Doesn't matter. Any add-in seems to make a shaky OS even worse. You would think that a subset of Windows Server 2003 would be rock solid. Not so. Apparently WHS left out the good code, and added some crap.

Add-ins in general cause problems. McAfee is fairly flakey. It fails at least once a week, and it takes several restarts to fix it, if ever. PVConnect is a pathetic joke that can't even update its own settings properly.

No, I am not going to offer up details. I do this for a living, and I can tell you that, IMHO, this whole OS is still alpha quality. I had great hopes for WHS, but, so far, it has been a kludgy, inadequate, incomplete POJ. And yes, I paid for the right to be annoyed.

Over and out,

KGV

November 12, 2008 6:07 PM

The way that I get around this problem is:
1) Log into your server via Remote Desktop
2) Bring up the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar and select Task Manager from the menu)
3) Click on the Users tab
4) Look for the user "Administrator" with the status of "Disconnected" and select it
5) Click on Logoff button at the bottom of the window.

You should now be able to log into your server from the Console.

November 17, 2008 4:02 PM

Got my EX475 this weekend. System updated today and blue screen kept coming up. Remoted in, restarted server, uninstalled both McAfee and PVC, and now works like a charm again. Thanks to everyone on the forum.

November 17, 2008 8:58 PM

Be sure to give McAfee a LOT of time to complete that initial scan before you change anything else. It's easy to get eager and McAfee does not seem to like that!

...JohnBick

EX475 + 3 1TB WD (2.5TB "pool", 1.5TB backup), 2 GB mmry, LE-1640, APC UPS
PC1: Vista/32 Ultimate SP1, 2x150 GB Raptor RAID-1 Sys (C) & 4x320GB RAID-5 Data (D)
PC2: Laptop, Win XP Home SP3
Linksys WRT54G v1.1, 2xNetGear GS105

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