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Converting and Streaming Home Movies with the HP MediaSmart Server (Page 4 of 4)

Limitations and Important Notes

As cool and simple as the HP Video Converter is, it's not perfect. There are a few things you should know, as well as a few cases where a few extra steps may be required in order to get things working properly.

Why are HQ files so large?

HP's Video Converter attempts to maintain quality as close to the original as possible, and therefore typically uses a similar bitrate as the original file, or so it would seem to me after comparing some originals to the output files. This means converting things like DVD VOB files will result in file sizes similar to the DVD. That's not exactly ideal if you're trying to conserve space.

If you're looking to save space, and your home movies are already in DVD format, I suggest using a different tool to convert your DVDs to video files. There are many that will work, but Handbrake is a free and popular choice for converting DVDs to H.264 files.

 

It gives you a lot of flexibility over your encoding options and can help you maintain a better balance between video quality and file size.

Why do my widescreen videos appear squeezed when viewing on my TV or when viewing remotely with Media Streamer?

If you have a camcorder that shoots in anamorphic widescreen, you may experience some problems viewing your home movies in the correct aspect ratio. Sometimes you'll have problems with both HQ and MQ versions, and other times only have problems viewing mobile versions with Media Streamer or on a mobile device. This will vary depending on the model camcorder you have, and how your videos are currently stored. 

To overcome this, there are several options. If you're experiencing problems viewing widescreen materials on both your TV and the mobile streamer, there are some things you can do to overcome this, depending on how your movies are currently stored.

If you currently have your movies on DVD, try using another tool (like Handbrake as listed above) to convert your video. They may be better at detecting and compensating for the aspect ratio.

If you imported your movie file into Movie Maker, you can output your movie in a format that takes the widescreen proportions into account. First, go to Tools --> Options --> Advanced, and make sure 16:9 is selected in Video Properties. For the best quality results for your HQ version, select "Save Movie..." in Movie Maker, then choose "High Quality Video (NTSC)" from the drop down list. Take the resulting output file and convert it with the HP Video Converter. It should appear in widescreen on TVs and Extenders. 

For the MQ version (or if you're still having problems with viewing widescreen content on your TV), follow the steps above, except choose "High quality video (large)" from the list. This will save off a WMV file at 856x480. Convert this file in the HP Video Converter, and all should be well when viewing on a TV, mobile devices, and through the HP Media Streamer. 

I have a High Definition camcorder. I can view my movies just fine on my TV, but I want to stream movies to my iPhone using the iStream App. What do I do?

As noted above, the HP Video Converter doesn't currently handle HD video in any format. Your camcorder should have come with software that allows you to edit HD video. This software should also let you save standard definition versions of your home movie.

If your software allows you to save a mobile quality MP4 file, the output files should work just fine with iStream. However, if you have trouble, save off a copy your home movie in standard definition using a format like XViD or WMV. Then, drop that resulting file in your conversion folder to make a mobile quality version using HP Video Converter. 

Wrapping up

There are several more ways to skin a cat, though I've found these directions to be pretty reliable and easy to follow for most who are getting started in the world of video streaming with their MediaSmart Server.

Of course, if you have alternative methods that work for you, share them in the comments section below.

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June 8, 2009 10:49 AM

Hi Matt,

Where is this addin located?  Or is it 3rd party software?  The article was very well written and I want to try the software and see how it fares.  

The twonky streaming app I've never been able to get to work so this might be a good alternative.

Thanks!

June 8, 2009 11:42 AM updated: June 9, 2009 3:10 PM

Thanks MediaMonkey. This piece is intended to help newcomers to the MSS use the new HP Video Converter with their home movies, which is part of the 2.5 update for the EX-485 and EX-487. HP plans to bring these features to the EX-47x and LX series this fall, according to this announement.

I'll do an edit to the article shortly to specify that the HP Video Converter is currently only available to those with an EX-485 or EX-487.

I'll also drop in some links to some of the other apps I mentioned, like Handbrake.

June 13, 2009 5:57 PM

Hi Matt,

I was wondering if there is a minimum system requirements for this add-on, the reason i ask is i am using the single core atom mobo with 2Gb of ram. Also after the movie gets converted does it replace the original or are you left with 2 copies of the same movie? And lastly were can i get it from?

Thanks in advance.

June 15, 2009 10:44 AM

Kleverbear said: Hi Matt, I was wondering if there is a minimum system requirements for this add-on, the reason i ask is i am using the single core atom mobo with 2Gb of ram. Also after the movie gets converted does it replace the original or are you left with 2 copies of the same movie? And lastly were can i get it from? Thanks in advance.

The original file is not deleted. The copy/converted file is moved to a new folder called "converted videos."

I JUST answered this question above. The HP Video Converter is exclusive to the HP MediaSmart Server EX-485 and EX-487 running the 2.5 upgrade. In fall it should be available as an upgrade for the EX-470/475 and LX-195 MediaSmart Servers.

It's not available for those who home build their own home server or buy a competing brand.

June 16, 2009 3:13 PM

Thanks Matt, to bad its not public.

June 22, 2009 2:29 PM

Hi Matt,

I am using iMovie 09 with my MAC and having a tough time exporting out of iMovie into a format that the MSS can understand. I want to share to relatives using the remote access web app but am stuck now...

June 22, 2009 2:40 PM

Seth said: Hi Matt, I am using iMovie 09 with my MAC and having a tough time exporting out of iMovie into a format that the MSS can understand. I want to share to relatives using the remote access web app but am stuck now...

What are you output format options?

June 22, 2009 2:43 PM

Pretty much anything I would like...there is a ton of options though in each format (mov, mp4, m4v, avi, etc...) I just don't know which ones to use! The default for iMovie 09 is mp4 with the h.263 codec. This is NOT compatible with the conversion on the MSS come to find out so I need to do some tweaking to make this all work. FOr MAC users, this is not as straightforward as I would have hoped! :(

June 22, 2009 2:48 PM updated: June 22, 2009 2:50 PM

The compatible formats are on page 1: http://www.mediasmarthome.com/article/12236/Converting-and-Streaming-Home-Mov...

That said, MP4 / M4V -MPEG 4 with AAC is listed. iMovie should be able to easily output something like that.

Do you have an option for MPEG2 or some kind of "DV" format?

Do you have the option of outputting h.264? That would save you the time of having to convert through the MSS, since it would already be in a great format for streaming.

June 22, 2009 2:50 PM

I do have the option of outputting h.264...what do I do then...place the file in the Converted Video folder?

June 22, 2009 2:55 PM

Seth said: I do have the option of outputting h.264...what do I do then...place the file in the Converted Video folder?
Nope, if you output in h.264, you don't need the HP Video Converter to do anything. Save off a full res and mobile quality version and just add it to your videos folder.

June 22, 2009 2:58 PM

Right...I've done that but when you go to https://192.168.0.2/MediaStreamer/ the videos are not there but they exist in file explorer...

June 28, 2009 8:34 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on why the video converter on my mediasmart 485 isn't converting any of my videos anymore? I've added new videos to the "Videos" shared folder - both Video_TS VOB files and separately mp4 files - and video converter sees the files, and goes through "waiting", "pending", and then "failed" stages for all of them. I click Re-convert, and nothing happens. I've rebooted the server, I've disabled and then enabled video converter, and can't get it to convert anything.

It looks like a few weeks ago it did convert various videos successfully - wmv, mpg, and dvr-ms - but then, unfortunately, I went through and deleted the entire Converted Videos subfolder structure starting with MQ and HQ and all files there and below. I assume that has caused my problem but i can't figure out how to fix it. I assumed that disabling and then enabling video converter would reestablish whatever it needed, but so far nada.

July 25, 2009 11:30 AM updated: July 25, 2009 2:45 PM

Hi Matt,

I've run across your site and have found some very useful info. One issue I have a question about is the HP Video Converter.

I created a folder on the MediaSmart Server named "Videos to Convert" and moved my Video_TS folders of my home movies to it. I gave it all user access. However, the Server won't start converting the files.

Can you tell me how to get the Server to start converting the files to mp4?

Alternately, I've tried Handbrake, and converted in Basic Normal and High Profile Television, but the X-box won't play these files.

Can you give me the settings you use on Handbrake to allow X-box compatible conversion.

Thanks a lot for your time.

July 27, 2009 10:15 AM updated: July 27, 2009 10:27 AM

rdadd said: Hi Matt, I've run across your site and have found some very useful info. One issue I have a question about is the HP Video Converter. I created a folder on the MediaSmart Server named "Videos to Convert" and moved my Video_TS folders of my home movies to it. I gave it all user access. However, the Server won't start converting the files. Can you tell me how to get the Server to start converting the files to mp4? Alternately, I've tried Handbrake, and converted in Basic Normal and High Profile Television, but the X-box won't play these files. Can you give me the settings you use on Handbrake to allow X-box compatible conversion. Thanks a lot for your time.

When you create a folder to be monitored, make sure it's done as a share.

1. Click on Shared Folders at the top of the Home Server Console

2. Click "Add" in the bar at the top left, then create your share.

3. Click on Settings, then chose HP Video Converter on the left.

4. Select Full and Mobile, or just one or the other depending on what you want.

5. Make sure HP Video Converter is enabled. Hit Apply or OK, and you should be set. 

For handbrake, there should be an XBOX 360 profile already in there (if not, upgrade to the latest version of Handbrake). The gist for the 360 is you'll want to use h.264, MP4 container, 2-channel AAC audio, and a bitrate somewhere between 1000 and 4000 (I use 2500). I use a slightly modified version of the PS3 profile, and it plays great on the 360. 

July 30, 2009 10:08 AM

Matt Whitlock said:

When you create a folder to be monitored, make sure it's done as a share. 1. Click on Shared Folders at the top of the Home Server Console 2. Click "Add" in the bar at the top left, then create your share. 3. Click on Settings, then chose HP Video Converter on the left. 4. Select Full and Mobile, or just one or the other depending on what you want. 5. Make sure HP Video Converter is enabled. Hit Apply or OK, and you should be set.  For handbrake, there should be an XBOX 360 profile already in there (if not, upgrade to the latest version of Handbrake). The gist for the 360 is you'll want to use h.264, MP4 container, 2-channel AAC audio, and a bitrate somewhere between 1000 and 4000 (I use 2500). I use a slightly modified version of the PS3 profile, and it plays great on the 360. 
Thanks a lot Matt. I tried both processes and they work as you described. Handbrake sure uses up a lot of the CPU doesn't it?
I have another question related to the server and the computer, which I haven't figured out. When I click on any video that is in the Converted Video folder on the server to move it to the Videos folder, Windows Live Quicktime Control Host immediately takes over the CPU and seems to hang up the server so I can't move the video file.  I have to hit Ctl-Alt-Delete to kill the process, and wait til the server recovers.  Have you run across this problem, and if so, how do you fix the problem?
Thanks

July 30, 2009 10:12 AM

rdadd said:
Matt Whitlock said:
When you create a folder to be monitored, make sure it's done as a share. 1. Click on Shared Folders at the top of the Home Server Console 2. Click "Add" in the bar at the top left, then create your share. 3. Click on Settings, then chose HP Video Converter on the left. 4. Select Full and Mobile, or just one or the other depending on what you want. 5. Make sure HP Video Converter is enabled. Hit Apply or OK, and you should be set.  For handbrake, there should be an XBOX 360 profile already in there (if not, upgrade to the latest version of Handbrake). The gist for the 360 is you'll want to use h.264, MP4 container, 2-channel AAC audio, and a bitrate somewhere between 1000 and 4000 (I use 2500). I use a slightly modified version of the PS3 profile, and it plays great on the 360. 
Thanks a lot Matt. I tried both processes and they work as you described. Handbrake sure uses up a lot of the CPU doesn't it?
I have another question related to the server and the computer, which I haven't figured out. When I click on any video that is in the Converted Video folder on the server to move it to the Videos folder, Windows Live Quicktime Control Host immediately takes over the CPU and seems to hang up the server so I can't move the video file.  I have to hit Ctl-Alt-Delete to kill the process, and wait til the server recovers.  Have you run across this problem, and if so, how do you fix the problem?
Thanks
Interesting. I haven't seen that particular issue. Try turning off monitoring the Videos folder with HP Video Converter. It may do nothing, but it's the only variable I can think of between my set up and yours off the top of my head.

August 15, 2009 8:51 PM

Hi Matt, appreciate your help.

I have a Sony SR-12 HD camcorder. Is there any way to store the videos (.m2ts) on the MSS (EX-487, 2.5 update), convert them if necessary and stream them thru my Xbox 360 to my TV?

Thanks

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